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	<title>Comments on: Blacklist Filter for Spamihilator</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is same “Mike“ as 2 posts above - Spami crashed on me and would not restart, due to no fault of this plugin, but after that I had to re-install Spami, I also had to re-install this plugin and now it seems to work good. Sorry for confusion and good work, look forward to new version</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is same “Mike“ as 2 posts above &#8211; Spami crashed on me and would not restart, due to no fault of this plugin, but after that I had to re-install Spami, I also had to re-install this plugin and now it seems to work good. Sorry for confusion and good work, look forward to new version</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Hofmann</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-5974</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai Hofmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry, but I had a lot of false positives with this filter. Friends from aol or T-Online have been filtered out as well as some of my mailinglists.
So I have to kick the filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry, but I had a lot of false positives with this filter. Friends from aol or T-Online have been filtered out as well as some of my mailinglists.<br />
So I have to kick the filter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-5925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this plugin has scanned a lot of emails, without ever having found spam.  The logs appear to be ok - says it’s checking each list I have set - but then always returns not spam, every time, even though most of my mail IS spam. Just doesn’t seem right. Is this possible? If so, whats the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this plugin has scanned a lot of emails, without ever having found spam.  The logs appear to be ok &#8211; says it’s checking each list I have set &#8211; but then always returns not spam, every time, even though most of my mail IS spam. Just doesn’t seem right. Is this possible? If so, whats the point?</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-4068</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fine piece of software and my compliments. But it fails just like every spam filter ever written. The net result of all spam filters is to block almost everything until the user sets up a &quot;friends&quot; list. Why block almost everything? Why not just block everything.

To pinpoint the problem here I quote Peter. &quot;Overzealous Blacklists&quot;. All blacklists are over zealous. That&#039;s because their creators have just missed the whole point. Headers are spoofed. Sender IP addresses are dynamic IP&#039;s. The blacklists are crammed with so many innocent ip&#039;s and domains that they ruin the effectiveness of the filter. The real address of the spammer is the links in the message body. What good would it do to send spam that didn&#039;t link bank to the senders website.

So your filter would do a near perfect job if the blacklists were right because you check urls in the body. Great work. But perhaps we can overide the &quot;unclear on the concept&quot; nature of blacklists. Can the filter be given the option of ONLY checking the message body and ignoring the header? Thus the false positives would be zero and the only spam slipping through would be briefly when spammers change their webhosts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fine piece of software and my compliments. But it fails just like every spam filter ever written. The net result of all spam filters is to block almost everything until the user sets up a &#8220;friends&#8221; list. Why block almost everything? Why not just block everything.</p>
<p>To pinpoint the problem here I quote Peter. &#8220;Overzealous Blacklists&#8221;. All blacklists are over zealous. That&#8217;s because their creators have just missed the whole point. Headers are spoofed. Sender IP addresses are dynamic IP&#8217;s. The blacklists are crammed with so many innocent ip&#8217;s and domains that they ruin the effectiveness of the filter. The real address of the spammer is the links in the message body. What good would it do to send spam that didn&#8217;t link bank to the senders website.</p>
<p>So your filter would do a near perfect job if the blacklists were right because you check urls in the body. Great work. But perhaps we can overide the &#8220;unclear on the concept&#8221; nature of blacklists. Can the filter be given the option of ONLY checking the message body and ignoring the header? Thus the false positives would be zero and the only spam slipping through would be briefly when spammers change their webhosts.</p>
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		<title>By: Alter Falter!</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-3982</link>
		<dc:creator>Alter Falter!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automatic updating of Blacklist Filter with Spamihilator does not work. Please fix it - thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Snow</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-3888</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep removing 

blackholes.five-ten-sg.com
no-more-funn.moensted.dk

and I press OK to save my changes, but later I notice that it is still incorrectly deleting stuff based on these over zealous lists.

Why can&#039;t I remove them permanently? How can they keep getting re-added?

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep removing </p>
<p>blackholes.five-ten-sg.com<br />
no-more-funn.moensted.dk</p>
<p>and I press OK to save my changes, but later I notice that it is still incorrectly deleting stuff based on these over zealous lists.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t I remove them permanently? How can they keep getting re-added?</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Gusford</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-3416</link>
		<dc:creator>Gusford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 14:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, thanks for the plugin. I&#039;m still stuck with Outlook 2002 and its total inability to filter spam or even block images, and Spamihilator and a plugin like yours really helps. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, thanks for the plugin. I&#8217;m still stuck with Outlook 2002 and its total inability to filter spam or even block images, and Spamihilator and a plugin like yours really helps. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: brot</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-3087</link>
		<dc:creator>brot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this list of lists is better for this plugin:

MailDNS0=sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
MailDNS1=list.dsbl.org
MailDNS2=bl.spamcop.net
MailDNS3=problems.dnsbl.sorbs.net
MailDNS3=psbl.surriel.com
MailDNS4=db.wpbl.info
MailDNS5=rbl.orbitrbl.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this list of lists is better for this plugin:</p>
<p>MailDNS0=sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org<br />
MailDNS1=list.dsbl.org<br />
MailDNS2=bl.spamcop.net<br />
MailDNS3=problems.dnsbl.sorbs.net<br />
MailDNS3=psbl.surriel.com<br />
MailDNS4=db.wpbl.info<br />
MailDNS5=rbl.orbitrbl.com</p>
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		<title>By: brot</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>brot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think there is a design problem with version 0.9.0

it scans all ips in the received, so it checks the first ip the deliverer has, and when this is a dynamic ip range the mail get blacklisted for example via t1.dnsbl.net.au (http://dnsbl.net.au/rdts/ or http://www.de.sorbs.net/faq/dul.shtml)

so please change the system or dont put all this aggregate zone lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think there is a design problem with version 0.9.0</p>
<p>it scans all ips in the received, so it checks the first ip the deliverer has, and when this is a dynamic ip range the mail get blacklisted for example via t1.dnsbl.net.au (<a href="http://dnsbl.net.au/rdts/" rel="nofollow">http://dnsbl.net.au/rdts/</a> or <a href="http://www.de.sorbs.net/faq/dul.shtml)" rel="nofollow">http://www.de.sorbs.net/faq/dul.shtml)</a></p>
<p>so please change the system or dont put all this aggregate zone lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder</title>
		<link>http://edwards.org/2006/12/02/blacklistfilter/comment-page-1/#comment-2630</link>
		<dc:creator>Ponder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a new user.  This looks like a great plugin.  Anybody have an idea when it might be ready?  Thanks..Ponder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a new user.  This looks like a great plugin.  Anybody have an idea when it might be ready?  Thanks..Ponder</p>
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